Would you watch 3-D porn?

August 16, 2010

Bring the goggles and raincoats, its about to get REALLY REAL in here!

wait, isn’t that just called being a voyeur?

HONG KONG – On the leafy fringes of Hong Kong in a shabby film studio, a nude ponytailed actor stretched out on animal-skins with his lover as the cameras rolled in a set evoking a subterranean sex lair in ancient China.

Turning away from a slightly blurred high definition TV screen as the actors writhed, director Christopher Sun shouted “cut” whilst yanking off his 3-D glasses. “Good” he yelled.

No ordinary porn flick, “3-D Sex & Zen: Extreme Ecstasy” is being touted as the world’s first IMAX-3-D erotic film.

I am with Ronin…I am totally down on 3-D. Real life is 3-D. Spend time going to do what you want, instead of watching others…

Thats what I am afraid of....

Hong Kong director Christopher Sun is currently filming his $3.2 million ‘3-D Sex and Zen: Extreme Ecstasy’, which is due for release in May, but Italian director Tinto Brass has already announced he will produce a 3D remake of his 1979 erotic film Caligula.

Although mainland Chinese censors are almost certain to block the movie’s screening, it has sparked wide interest in other Asian markets, including Japan and South Korea, as well Europe, and the United States.

Producer Stephen Shiu said: “This is the future of the movie business — it’s human nature to want to see things in 3D.”

Adding to the pressure, the American company Hustler is making a pornographic spoof of 3D science fiction blockbuster Avatar, the highest-grossing movie of all time and the film that heralded the beginning of the mainstream 3D boom.

There is a lot of things that are happening in a porno flick that I don’t want to see, and definitely not in 3-D. I certainly don’t want to see any dudes in 3D, or the money shot.

Damn Ronin,

look at your girl….

Law enforcement sources tell us the Seaside Heights PD busted Snooki moments ago for disorderly conduct. The details of that conduct are unclear.

We’re told Snooki — real name Nicole Polizzi — is currently in police custody.

Earlier in the day, Snooki was partying on the beach with a beer bong … only she was filling it up with Coca-Cola.  We’re told she was also seen at a local bar taking “body shots.”

wow...and what redeeming features are here?

Why is this chick making a bunch of money?  More important, why should we care?

Ole girl got some money and then it went to her head (and her gut)  The one thing that might have been attractive is lost.  Her grill was not much to look at and the big frames make her look like an old grandmother.

Looks like MTV bought into a some fake gold, fugazi as the guidettes say…

Get your prep walk down girl...

Here is another great action shot of her falling all over the place.

Ronin, what did you see in this trainwreck?

This might be the only thing that she is good for…

I bet she can fit the whole thing in her mouth...Just dont bite it...

Here is some music to ride out to Snooki…

You will fall in love and get married while reading this...keep the fifty bucks as a wedding present

…they should have seen them coming and ran…

ABC News

Police Focus on Couple Who Raised Abducted Girl

Authorities focus on couple who raised abducted Calif girl for 7 years


The Associated Press


The tears in Amber Nicklas’ eyes as she realized she would be taken from the only family she ever knew was enough to make Detective Jerry Saba’s stomach churn.

The girl, abducted at age 1 from her foster parents in California seven years ago, was found this week at a Phoenix home where she was being raised by a palm-reading couple.

The Los Angeles County sheriff’s detective was among a host of authorities who went to the little white clapboard house that doubled as a psychic business and told the man and woman raising Amber they were taking her into protective custody.

The blonde-haired girl began to cry but eventually calmed down as she was led away clutching her Barney doll.

“I felt horrible for her,” Saba told The Associated Press on Friday. “Here she is at age 7, being taken away from the only family she knew.”

Amber was brought back to Los Angeles on a sheriff’s plane while she played Rock Paper Scissors with the detectives and was even shown Disneyland as they flew over Anaheim.

She remained in protective custody Friday as authorities investigate what role, if any, the Phoenix couple had in her abduction.

The couple, who were originally from Romania, were using a different name for Amber. When police arrived at the home, the purported parents seemed resigned to losing her, Saba said.

“I think they had suspicions we would be coming,” he said. “They weren’t asking the types of questions I would expect from true parents, they weren’t offering up any resistance.”

The couple, whose names were not released, were detained then released after questioning. A second woman elsewhere in Phoenix was also questioned and released. Saba said he hoped charges will be filed, but was unclear of a timeframe, in part because of the complexity of a case spanning jurisdictions in two states.

The couple’s attorney, John Blischak, told The Arizona Republic they did not know Amber had been kidnapped. Blischak did not immediately return a call to the AP Friday afternoon.

Amber was abducted Sept. 21, 2003, by three juvenile aunts — one of them as young as 13 — who went with her and her foster parents to a Chuck E. Cheese in nearby Norwalk. Two of the aunts created some sort of distraction while the third got away with Amber.

The act must have been good and the timing must have been on point, but again, it’s Chuckie Cheese.  There is a lot to do there.

Cut one line up for me, CHUCK!

Saba said investigators at the time worked hard to track the girl but the case went nowhere. There were a couple leads saying she was in Arizona but, despite searches by authorities there, she was never found.

Doesn’t this sound familiar? Remember the name Jaycee Lee Dugard?  She was kidnapped and found years after the fact?  The authorities had been to the home numerous times over the years and did nothing and never worked with the info they had that a pedophile had children at his house…

Two of the three aunts served time in juvenile detention for the abduction, but Saba would not comment on what investigators gleaned from interviews with them or if they remained part of the investigation.

Amber appeared to have been living in the Phoenix home since soon after she was abducted, Saba said. It was not clear how she ended up there, but authorities say the couple in the house knew one of the aunts. Saba did not elaborate on the relationship.

Gustavo Lom, who owns a sandwich and taco shop across the street from the couple’s house, said he remembered when Amber was a baby and often saw her and the couple outside together.

“I thought they were a normal family. They seemed to treat her as affectionately as any parent treats their kids,” Lom said. “I’d see him carrying her in his arms, kissing her on the cheek, sitting on the porch together.”

The couple were also raising a baby girl and had a grown son. Those children appeared to be their own, authorities said.

Authorities originally planned to put Amber into protective custody in Phoenix but worried her pretend parents would try to find her.

“She’s been abducted once, we were afraid if she remained out there, they would abduct her again,” Saba said.

Amber appeared to be well nourished and the house was clean and tidy, Saba said. The couple raising her had kept her out of school in an attempt to hide her and when police arrived, the purported mother tried to hide Amber in a bathroom shower under a pile of clothes and towels.

Authorities gave Amber enough time to change out of a pink skirt and into a pair of cotton pants before being returned to the care of Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services, Saba said. That agency declined to confirm it was looking after Amber or provide any details on her original abduction.


Associated Press Writer Amanda Lee Myers contributed to this report from Phoenix.

Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Copyright © 2010 ABC News Internet Ventures

Sometimes, the very thing that you are looking for is right under your nose….

its for for kids AND adults!

This might be something to stab someone over...

Now, just about everyone has gotten into a disagreement with their parents or guardians.  It’s natural.  You want more freedom, they care about your safety and at times, those things come into conflict.  There has been many times when I have been faced with that conflict.  I just tried to de-escalate and plan for another time. Aaron Dean does not have the ability to control his urges.  I mean, I like cheeseburgers, but not enough to stab anyone over one.

Damn that must have been a good burger...

TOLEDO, OH (WTVG) — A Toledo teen is behind bars for allegedly stabbing his mother over a cheeseburger.

The altercation happened at 425 West Bancroft around 1 a.m. Friday morning.

Aaron Dean, 18, is accused of stabbing his mother over the burger.

Detectives say the teen’s mom came home with food for herself. Her son apparently got upset because she didn’t bring him a cheeseburger.

Police say he choked her, grabbed a butcher knife, and stabbed her in the right arm before running away.

We talked with Vergie Dean, Aaron’s mom, today. She told us she grabbed a cheeseburger from Rally’s and headed home.

She says her 6’3″ 300-pound son got upset because she didn’t bring one for him. “He was like ‘Where’s my food at?’ and I’m like ‘I’m not gonna give you anything’ so he smacked my sandwich and he pushed me or something and it escalated from there.”

Aaron allegedly grabbed and choked her. “He had me in the corner. I took a knife and I stabbed him in his finger. He ran in his room and grabbed a big ole butcher knife. He came back and was like ‘You cut me, you cut me.’ He was standing right there. He just took the knife and stuck it in my arm. ”

Detectives took the butcher knife as evidence.

They say Aaron Dean took off after the stabbing. He was arrested a block from his home, on Prescott Street.

His mother blames her son’s behavior on his mental illness. “He’s a paranoid schizophrenic and he ain’t been taking his medicine for one because he flips off. He be good sometime, then he get bad.”

Police charged the teen with felonious assault, false information, and drug abuse.

His mother says her son would rather buy drugs than food. “So to keep him from going in the streets to do the bad things, I give him money everyday.”

She says she doesn’t want him to stay in jail. “It’s not a good place for him there. He need to go to a mental hospital somewhere so he can get his head right because he might want to hurt somebody else on the street.”

(Copyright ©2010 WTVG-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)
Now that is motherly love…

You are about to be tased....

You got what was coming to you. Whatever made you think this was a good idea, I bet you reconsidered that now....

This is a clear sign that fools never learn.  Remember when Andrew Meyer disrupted the Kerry rally and got tased?

don't hate people making money...

His line led to riches….

I can get behind the idea of this comic

Didnt this dumb@ss learn anything?…Remember Don’t tase me Bro?  Well he has been remixed with Hammer, since Hammer is for the children…but really, children…do not run on the field, and you will not be get tased…

Report: Teen wanted dad’s OK

ESPN.com news services

Before 17-year-old Steve Consalvi ran onto the field at Citizen’s Bank Park on Monday, where he was Tasered by a police officer, the teenager reportedly called his father for permission to do so. “He said, ‘Dad, can I run on the field? I said, ‘I don’t think you should, son,'” Wayne Consalvi told the Philadelphia Daily News of the conversation he had with his son. “This would be a once in a lifetime experience!” Steve Consalvi replied to his father, according to the newspaper.

First, if you have to call your dad to do something, then you should not do it.  Plus, as a Dad, saying you don’t think so is not strong enough.  Ultimately, you blame the son, but the father could have solved all this just by pointing out that the idea is stupid and you forbid him to do it.

Second, if he did it after you tell him not to, you can wash your hands of the entire matter.  Right now, you look like a parent who is a little too lax on the rules.

Wayne Consalvi told the newspaper that his son was not drinking and he wasn’t on drugs. Steve Consalvi is “a real good student, heading to Penn State,” his father told the Philadelphia Daily News. The father also told the newspaper that his son didn’t run onto the field as a result of a dare or bet, either. “I don’t recommend running on the field, but I don’t think they should have Tased him at all,” he told the newspaper. The Phillies and Philadelphia police are investigating whether a police officer’s use of a Taser to apprehend Steve Consalvi was an appropriate use of force.

Hell yes, it was an appropriate use of a taser.  Stay off the field and you will not get tazered.  How about this one.  I recommend not getting tasered and by that I mean stay off the field.  Should they have just tackled him and whooped his @ss?  Oscar Grant needed an investigation.  Rodney King needed an investigation.  This needs a commendation.  More fools that run on the field, or think that it is a lifetime experience need a lifetime adjustment experience.  A Tazer can cause that.  I bet that he will not run onto any more fields.  But, the taser is necessary to prevent others from thinking that this is okay.  Remember the Royals coach who got attacked by the fan?  How can a father in any right mind think that this is okay.  If they shot him, I would have been fine with that too, even though that is excessive.  Maybe just an old school beat down works.  But, if YOU STAY OFF THE FIELD, THIS WILL NOT HAPPENED TO YOU!

Lt. Frank Vanore, a police spokesman, says Commissioner Charles Ramsey reviewed the tape and felt the officer had acted within the department’s guidelines, which allow officers to use Tasers to arrest fleeing suspects. Vanore says internal affairs is still investigating. Ramsey told KYW Radio in Philadelphia that he supported the officer’s decision to use a Taser. “It was inappropriate for him to be out there on the field,” Ramsey said. “Unless I read something to the contrary, that officer acted appropriately. I support him 100 percent.” Consalvi, wearing a baseball cap, red T-shirt and khaki shorts, hopped a fence and scurried around the outfield, eluding two security officers in the bottom of the eighth inning against the St. Louis Cardinals. One officer used a Taser and the fan went down in a heap. Several Phillies placed gloves over their faces and appeared to be stifling laughter at the wild scene. Phillies spokeswomen Bonnie Clark said the police department is investigating the matter and discussing with the team whether using the stun gun was appropriate. The team said it’s the first time a Taser has been used by police to apprehend a spectator who ran onto the field. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

Won’t start none, won’t be none….Words to live by…

UPDATE My new favorite Don’t tase me Bro! video

I wonder if he predicted the knife in the back?

Yeah, but it gave him a lot of money to soothe over the screwing…

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Conan O’Brien will be on TV this weekend with his first post-“Tonight Show” interview.

O’Brien talks with Steve Kroft on “60 Minutes,” CBS said Tuesday. O’Brien’s exit deal with NBC barred him from television appearances until May 1; the “60 Minutes” piece will air the day after.

The interview was conducted last week in Los Angeles, according to a person with knowledge of it. The person, who lacked authority to discuss the matter publicly, spoke on condition of anonymity.

This is the thing that always pisses me off.  If you don’t have the authority to speak on it, then why are you giving interviews?  Why is your right (alleged) to anonymity more important than the right of your job to limit access?  You know you are not supposed to talk, but because you can’t keep your mouth closed, you leak the info, but do it as a coward.  You are spreading rumors and that is really sad.

O’Brien, who left “Tonight” in January over a time-slot dispute with NBC, has agreed to host a late-night show on TBS later this year. He’s now on a national comedy tour.

(Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Turner Broadcasting might be on to something.  The ratings have been good for the George Lopez show, even though the crew here does not watch.  Now, with Conan, I bet that his ratings will be just fine to justify whatever enormous contract that they gave him…Leno, watch your back.  You stabbed him, and whatever you get, you have coming.

People PLEASE! I still need you to love me! Watch my show that I gave to Conan and then took back!

This is how you walk away gracefully…

I mean, I like slurpees, and other items from 7-11, why not beer?  Oh that’s right, I am grown, have a job and can afford good beer.  But, for you younger set, or people without tastebuds, this may be right up your alley… (H/T to guenivere)

The beer that wil most likely be found in a brown paper bag, drunk by the poor

The beer most likely found in a brown paper bag...

7-Eleven rolls out Game Day, a store-brand beer


Associated Press

Posted: 04/21/2010 09:50:08 AM PDT

Updated: 04/21/2010 11:53:19 AM PDT

BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) — Quick, what’s the third-largest beer retailer in the U.S.? Chances are you didn’t know it’s 7-Eleven. Now, the convenience chain is getting a step closer to the suds it sells, rolling out a store-brand beer billed as a premium brew at a budget price.

Wait, are they stealing Keystone advertising campaign?

The launch, happening this month at stores nationwide, aims to take advantage of the current economic downturn — a long, cold one for beer sales.

“We’re really working back from the customers’ needs,” said Dan Skinner, 7-Eleven category manager for alcoholic beverages. “They’re looking for exceptional quality at a value price.”

Game Day beer follows the introduction of the Yosemite Road private-label wines in 7-Elevens last year. The idea of the home of Slim Jims and Slurpees turning sommelier had some scoffing. But Skinner said the launch has gone well, with the wines holding the No. 1 and No. 2 spots in the chain’s wine sales.

Private label?  That doesn’t have such a sterling reputation.  I didn’t know that 7-11 was a place to go for my wine….unless it is in a box, or has a twist off.

Cutaway of Box wine....

Boone's is the recipe to a cheap date...especially if you are in college and your funds are low.

Whether people are ready for 7-Eleven suds remains to be seen.

Al Everett, a web developer in the Washington, D.C., area who blogs about beer at hop-talk.com, is a craft beer enthusiast who wasn’t sure what to make of Game Day.

“If I was tailgating before a game, I’d certainly consider it,” he said. “It’s probably not something that I would have regularly.” Still, he was curious. “I’ll certainly keep an eye out for it.”

See, make your mind up.  Either you would consider it, or you wouldn’t.  For you to say that you would consider it, then place limitations on when considering it seems disingenuous.  You don’t know if you would have it regularly, since you have not tried it yer.

Game Day comes in two varieties. Game Day Light is 3.9 percent alcohol by volume and 110 calories per 12 ounces. Game Day Ice is 5.5 percent alcohol and 155 calories. The price is between $6.99 and $8.99 for a 12-pack, depending on local taxes and distribution costs, and 24-ounce singles are available for between $1.49 and $1.89.

The beer is being made by the 150-year-old City Brewery in La Crosse, Wis., one of the country’s largest contract brewers.

The move comes as beer sales have softened — it turns out beer may be recession resistant, but it is not recession proof.

What happened is that customers have been buying more below-premium and budget beers. Premium beers still dominate, with volume at 1.5 billion cases in 2009, or about half of all beer sold domestically, according to data cited by 7-Eleven from The Nielsen Company and other sources, but sales were down compared to 2008.

Or, as TV’s lager-loving Homer Simpson might put it, “D’oh!”

That is because 7-11 is not carrying this.

Duff...tThe beer of the average guy

The plan at 7-Eleven is to capitalize on market conditions.

“We can give premium beers a run for their money,” said Skinner, adding that Game Day performed well in taste tests, including among suppliers of premium beers.

This is 7-Eleven’s second attempt at beer. In 2003, they introduced Santiago, meant to compete with imports like Corona, but ultimately unable to gain much of a foothold.

This time around, chain officials expect their focus on high value in a down economy will work.

Beverage analyst Benj Steinman was intrigued by 7-Eleven’s plans, but not convinced they’ll work.

“My attitude to it basically is — show me,” he said. “Private label hasn’t worked in beer so far.” Steinman, editor of New York-based Beverage Business Insights, notes that Game Day “is a new wrinkle and 7-Eleven is very serious about its effort.” But he says store-brand beers have to overcome brand loyalty as well as the fact there already are a number of different price points for beer.

“I’m not ruling it out. I just say, ‘Show me’,” he said.

I bet this beer is not going to show up here….

Beerfest is a great time and I am sad that I am missing it this year...

Why is the MAN always messin with the brothas?


You know that this is our ish here at Too Old.  We relate and have lived through this show and the trials and tribulations that they got through.

Plus, Jay Electronica kills it as always with Exhibit C in the montage

The Boondocks is an American animated series created by Aaron McGruder for the [adult swim] programming block of Turner Broadcasting‘s Cartoon Network, based upon McGruder’s comic strip of the same name. The Boondocks is a social satire of American culture and race relations (or stereotypes in the world), revolving around the lives of the Freeman family: ten-year-old Huey, his younger brother, eight-year-old Riley, and their grandfather, Robert. The series is produced by Rebel Base and has finished airing its second season on [adult swim]. Season three is currently in production, with all animation pre-production and production work being produced at JM Animation in Seoul, Korea[citation needed].

The Boondocks takes place in the same place and time frame as its comic counterpart. The Freeman family, having recently moved from the South Side of Chicago, Illinois to the peaceful, fictional Chicago suburb of Woodcrest, Illinois (compared to Crestwood) find different ways to cope with this acute change in setting as well as the drastically different suburban cultures and lifestyles to which they are exposed. The perspective offered by this mixture of cultures, lifestyles, and races provides for much of the comedy in this series.

The satire premiered on November 6, 2005. The 15-episode first season ended on March 19, 2006. The second season premiered on October 8, 2007 and was, according to McGruder’s MySpace page, pared to 13 episodes; however, 15 episodes were created. Series creator Aaron McGruder states that a third season is currently under production due to air May 2, 2010.[1]

A leaked trailer reveals that Season Three will be the final season of the series

Why the man always trying to take the tools of the revolution?  All methods and means of protest do not have to be violent.  The intellectual approach is the one that causes the most fear because once you win the hearts and minds of the people, the battle is over.  The humor is so nuanced that it can cause you think about the society at large, as when they lampoon the rapper lifestyle and it’s impact on society.  That is when you can have real change…

This is what change looks like...regardless of the political view

you got owned Apple…all that money and someone didn’t due the company’s due diligence?  Someone should be fired….

1) This thing will not replace Amazon’s Kindle.

The Kindle is 6 oz.  The I-Pad is almost two lbs, according to endgadget. They also point out that the Ipad is not a light device.  If I am trying to read a book, that is a different move than trying to do multimedia things, which the I-Pad really doesn’t do all of.

2) This thing isn’t even going to kill the netbooks.

There is no way that the I-Pad will hurt the netbook.   The size factor is going to be one reason, and the other reason is going to be features.  The I-Pad is limited in what it can do.

3) Limited memory.  The top of the line memory for the thing is 64GB. Here is a listing from end gadget

After nearly a decade of rumors and speculation, Apple’s finally unveiled the iPad. It’s a half-inch thick and weighs just 1.5 pounds, with a 9.7-inch capacitive touchscreen IPS LCD display, and it’s running a custom 1GHz Apple “A4” chip developed by the P.A. Semi team, with a 10-hour battery life and a month of standby. It’ll come in 16, 32, and 64GB sizes, and it’s got the expected connectivity: very little. There’s a 30-pin Dock connector, a speaker, a microphone, Bluetooth, 802.11n WiFi and optional 3G, as well as an accelerometer and a compass. There’s also a keyboard dock, which connects underneath in the portrait orientation, support for up to 1024×768 VGA out and 480p composite out through new dock adapter cables, and a camera attachment kit that lets you import photos from your camera over USB or directly through an SD reader. The device is managed by iTunes, just like the iPhone — you sync everything over to your Mac. As expected, it can run iPhone apps — either pixel-for-pixel in a window, or pixel-doubled fullscreen — but developers can also target the new screen size using the updated iPhone OS SDK, which is available today. The 3G version runs on AT&T and comes with new data plans: 250MB for $14.99 and an unlimited plan for $29.99 a month contract-free. Activations are handled on the iPad, so you can activate and cancel whenever you want. Every iPad is unlocked and comes with a GSM “micro-SIM,” so you can use it abroad, but there aren’t any international deals in place right now — Steve says they’ll be back “this summer” with news on that front.

It starts at $499 for 16GB, 32GB for $599, and $699 64GB. Adding 3G costs a $130 per model, so the most expensive model (64GB / 3G) is $829. The WiFi-only model will ship in 60 days, and the 3G models will come in 90.

So, there seems to be a lot of things that I would want missing.  This is like the first ipods that had limited storage capability.  16gb is a joke.  I have flashdrives bigger than that.

a) NO CAMERA.  Not such a big thing in the world of Greg Oden, but for other responsible people, a camera is a ncie feature to have. I don’t use it, but it is an option I WANT to have.

b) THE DAMN THING DOES NOT MULTITASK!  That is the killer right there.  The ability to listen to music is critical to getting other assignments done.  You can work on only one thing at a time.

c) No FLASH!  If you don’t know why that is such a killer, here is some help from Wiki…

Adobe Flash (formerly Macromedia Flash) is a multimedia platform originally acquired by Macromedia and currently developed and distributed by Adobe Systems. Since its introduction in 1996, Flash has become a popular method for adding animation and interactivity to web pages. Flash is commonly used to create animation, advertisements, and various web page Flash components, to integrate video into web pages, and more recently, to develop rich Internet applications.

Flash can manipulate vector and raster graphics, and supports bidirectional streaming of audio and video. It contains a scripting language called ActionScript. Several software products, systems, and devices are able to create or display Flash content, including Adobe Flash Player, which is available free for most common web browsers, some mobile phones and for other electronic devices (using Flash Lite). The Adobe Flash Professional multimedia authoring program is used to create content for the Adobe Engagement Platform, such as web applications, games and movies, and content for mobile phones and other embedded devices.

Files in the SWF format, traditionally called “ShockWave Flash” movies, “Flash movies” or “Flash games”, usually have a .swf file extension and may be an object of a web page, strictly “played” in a standalone Flash Player, or incorporated into a Projector, a self-executing Flash movie (with the .exe extension in Microsoft Windows or .hqx for Macintosh). Flash Video files[spec 1] have a .flv file extension and are either used from within .swf files or played through a flv-aware player, such as VLC, or QuickTime and Windows Media Player with external codecs added.

So,  that limits a bunch of different useful apps, like Hulu and could limit youtube and other videos, as well as flash games and content by providers like ESPN.  ANOTHER FAIL!

d) DAMN THING IS LINKED TO AT&T again!  You have to sign up for a plan with a company that is garbage.

This thing is just a big Itouch…. I think I will pass….