At least you have the time to pose....

Maybe if he had listened to his wife, he might be holding down the most important job in the country right now.  I gotta give it up for Cindy. She is not a woman who took the loss as a sign that her voice was not valued.  Now, Cindy is standing up in the fight in CA against Prop. 8, the vote that took away the ability for Californians to have total choice to decide who they want to have as their partner.  John McCain was forced to clarify that he is a discriminator and he thinks that marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman.

The tape is on the wrong person's mouth. Why can't we use this for her husband? A worthwile fight...good for her being on the correct side. This is what a bigot DOESN'T look like...In the photo, is it me, or is she shooting MILF vibes...?

Cindy and Meghan McCain, posed for photos endorsing pro-gay marriage forces in California.Mrs McCain appears with silver duct tape across her mouth and “NOH8” written on one cheek. The photo was posted on Wednesday on the NOH8 campaign’s website.

The homosexual rights group opposes Proposition 8 – the ballot measure passed by Californian voters in 2008 which bans same-sex marriage.

Cindy McCain contacted NOH8 and offered to pose for the photo endorsement, the website said.

John McCain’s office said in a statement that the Arizona senator an 2008 Republican presidential candidate respects the views of members of his family but remains opposed to gay marriage.

“Sen McCain believes the sanctity of marriage is only defined as between one man and one woman,” the statement said.

The senator backed an Arizona ballot measure passed by voters in 2008 that defined marriage as between one man and one woman.

NOH8 praised Cindy McCain’s willingness to publicly endorse a cause that is unpopular within the Republican party.

“The McCains are one of the most well-known Republican families in recent history, and for Mrs McCain to have reached out to us to offer her support truly means a lot,” said a statement on the group’s website.

Meghan McCain said on Twitter: “I couldn’t be more proud of my mother for posing for the NOH8 campaign. I think more Republicans need to start taking a stand for equality.”

Hey, at least you are holding the book in the right direction....I bet you secretly (or hopefully openly) like women...but this shouldn't take away from the message that marriage is between two stupid people who think that they love each other enough to take half their shit...regardless of their gender. It two guys want to marry, and fight over possessions, then let them fight!

This is what a large chest looks like...Thanks Meghan!

See....that IS THE POINT!  It's the cariticture that is the problem...why do have to use Obama to sell your pancakes.  If nothing else, have some respect fotr the man who is the rpes...

See....that IS THE POINT! It's the caricature that is the problem...why do they have to use Obama to sell your pancakes? If nothing else, have some respect for the man who is the pres...This is not all about race either. But, ask yourself...DO they have McCain cakes, or something else?

Race matters and President Carter realizes it.

We see that you care President Carter....Your hard work will be remembered long after we all are gone.

We see that you care President Carter....Your hard work will be remembered long after we all are gone.

This is a story that is being hidden in the press, not really getting coverage after Kayne and other topics.  Heck, we didn’t blog about it under now.  But, with Carter coming out with a strongly worded statement, it inspired us to make a statement.

ABC News

Jimmy Carter: Wilson Comments ‘Based on Racism’

Former President Carter: Congressman’s outburst to Obama ‘based on racism,’ ‘dastardly’

By GREG BLUESTEIN

The Associated Press

ATLANTA

At least someone was not afraid to say it….


Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson’s outburst to President Barack Obama during a speech to Congress last week was an act “based on racism” and rooted in fears of a black president.

“I think it’s based on racism,” Carter said in response to an audience question at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. “There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.”

We all remember this crap that was happening during the election.  Remember this shirt? If people can equate a candidate with a chimp, then you know they are still thinking those things now that he is the president.

The Georgia Democrat said the outburst was a part of a disturbing trend directed at the president that has included demonstrators equating Obama to Nazi leaders.

“Those kind of things are not just casual outcomes of a sincere debate on whether we should have a national program on health care,” he said. “It’s deeper than that.”

Of course it is deeper than just the president, as he is only one man.  This pattern of racism is .

Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, was formally rebuked Tuesday in a House vote for shouting “You lie!” during Obama’s speech to Congress last Wednesday.

The shout came after the president commented that illegal aliens would be ineligible for federal subsidies to buy health insurance. Republicans expressed their disbelief with sounds of disapproval, punctuated by Wilson’s outburst.

You are going to have to pay to get your foot out, since your coverage doesn't pay for footinmouth disease...

You are going to have to pay to get your foot out, since your coverage doesn't pay for footinmouth disease...

Tuesday’s rebuke was a rare resolution of disapproval pushed through by Democrats who insisted that Wilson had violated basic rules of decorum and civility. Republicans characterized the measure as a witch hunt and Wilson, who had already apologized to Obama, insisted he owed the House no apology.

You disregarded the rules of your office.  You need to apologize for your outlandish behavior.

Wilson’s spokesman was not immediately available for comment, but his eldest son defended his father.

“There is not a racist bone in my dad’s body,” said Alan Wilson, an Iraq veteran who is running for state attorney general. “He doesn’t even laugh at distasteful jokes. I won’t comment on former President Carter, because I don’t know President Carter. But I know my dad, and it’s just not in him.”

“It’s unfortunate people make that jump. People can disagree — and appropriately disagree — on issues of substance, but when they make the jump to race it’s absolutely ludicrous. My brothers and I were raised by our parents to respect everyone regardless of background or race.”

What more can you say?  The kid handled it as well as possible, since we really can’t expect him to jump up and say, “My dad is a racist!”  It would have been novel, but we couldn’t expect it.

South Carolina’s former Democratic Party chairman said that he doesn’t believe Wilson was motivated by racism, but said the outburst encouraged racist views.

“I think Joe’s conduct was asinine, but I think it would be asinine no matter what the color of the president,” said Dick Harpootlian, who has known Wilson for decades. “I don’t think Joe’s outburst was caused by President Obama being African-American. I think it was caused by no filter being between his brain and his mouth.”

Harpootlian said he received scores of racial e-mails from outside South Carolina after he talked about the vote on Fox News.

“You have a bunch of folks out there looking for some comfort in their racial issues. They have a problem with an African-American president,” he said. “But was he motivated by that? I don’t think so. I respectfully disagree with President Carter, though it gives validity to racism.”

Carter called Wilson’s comment “dastardly” and an aftershock of racist views that have permeated American politics for decades.

“The president is not only the head of government, he is the head of state,” he said. “And no matter who he is or how much we disagree with his policies, the president should be treated with respect.”

———

Associated Press Writer Seanna Adcox in Columbia, S.C., contributed to this report.

Other people make the racist connection as well.

Laugh now, hang em later is this gentlemans motto

Laugh now, hang em later is this gentlemans motto

New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd wrote in her column Sunday that Wilson’s outburst convinced her that racial angst is the underlying motive among Obama critics like Wilson.

“I’ve been loath to admit that the shrieking lunacy of the summer … had much to do with race,” she wrote. “But Wilson’s shocking disrespect for the office of the president — no Democrat ever shouted ‘liar’ at W. when he was hawking a fake case for war in Iraq — convinced me: Some people just can’t believe a black man is president and will never accept it.”

Dowd wrote that Wilson “clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.”

The shuffling and jiving days are over!  Unfortuantely, the racism is still here...

The shuffling and jiving days are over! Unfortunately, the racism is still here...

No really, say it aint so, so I can call you a liar.  It’s always about the money, especially when they say its not about the money.  Her entire rise to fame is premised off a show that I used to watch as a kid called Night Court.

The shows premise was pretty simple….for me, the funny part was how he got the job.  He was the last of the people that they called for the job assignment, since he was home on a Saturday night, and all the other judges were out probably gallivanting around town.

Night Court is an American television situation comedy that aired on NBC from January 1984 until May 1992. The setting was the night shift of a Manhattan court, presided over by the young, unorthodox Judge Harold T. “Harry” Stone (played by Harry Anderson). It was created by comedy writer Reinhold Weege, who had previously worked on the award-winning and wry series Barney Miller in the 1970s and early 1980s.

Night Court, according to the first season DVD, was created without comedian/magician Harry Anderson in mind, but Anderson auditioned with the claim that he was Harry Stone. Anderson had developed a following with his performances on Saturday Night Live and made several successful appearances as “Harry the Hat” on another NBC sitcom, Cheers. (For the first several years of its run, Night Court aired on NBC Thursday nights after Cheers.) In later seasons, while Anderson remained the key figure, John Larroquette became the breakout personality, winning a number of awards and many fans for his performance as the lecherous Dan Fielding.

The comedy style on Night Court changed as the series progressed. During its initial seasons, the show was often compared to Barney Miller. In addition to being created by a writer of that show, Night Court (like Barney Miller) was set in New York City, featured quirky, often dry humor, and dealt with a staff who tried to cope with a parade of eccentric, often neurotic criminals and complainants. Furthering this comparison, these criminals and complainants were routinely played by character actors who had made frequent guest appearances on Barney Miller: Stanley Brock, Philip Sterling, Alex Hentlehoff, and many others. But while the characters appearing in the courtroom (and the nature of their transgressions) were often whimsical, bizarre or humorously inept, in the early years of Night Court, the show still took place in the ‘real world’. In fact, in an early review of the show, Time magazine called Night Court, with its emphasis on non-glamorous, non-violent petty crime, the most realistic law show on the air.

Gradually, however, Night Court abandoned its initial ‘real world’ setting, and morphed into what could best be described as broad, almost slapstick comedy. Logic and realism were frequently abandoned for the sake of a joke.

The show featured several defendants who appeared before the court again and again—notably the Wheelers, Bob and June (Bob was played by Brent Spiner later known for his role as Data in Star Trek: The Next Generation), who initially pretended to be stereotypical hicks from West Virginia but were later revealed as Yugoslavians, and at one point even ran a concession stand in the courthouse.

Sarah Palin is the modern day Harry Anderson.  She was in the right place at the right time.  She was a symbol that the GOP needed at the time in order to mount a credible attack to President Obama.  But, as the curtain closes, we begin to see the real Sarah Palin, behind the scenes.

//

Levi Johnston slams Sarah Palin, saying she schemed to hide daughter Bristol’s pregnancy

By David Saltonstall
DAILY NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT

Wednesday, September 2nd 2009, 12:19 PM

In the wake of his most recent Vanity Fair article, Levi Johnston is making his way further down former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's Christmas card list.

Somodevilla/Getty; Sabo/News
In the wake of his most recent Vanity Fair article, Levi Johnston is making his way further down former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s Christmas card list.

Sarah Palin‘s almost son-in-law has launched a flurry of new slapshots at the former GOP veep hopeful — saying she’s not a real  hockey mom, plotted to hide her daughter’s pregnancy, and quit as Alaska‘s governor to make money.

The scathing allegations by Levi Johnston, 18, the father of Palin’s grandson and a frequent critic of the Palin family, can be found in a first-person account by Johnston in this month’s Vanity Fair, entitled “Me and Mrs. Palin.”

It’s not a pretty picture: Johnston casts Palin as virtually the exact opposite of her image as the moose-hunting matriarch of a large and happy family.

“Even before she was nominated,” Johnston writes, “there wasn’t much parenting in that house. Sarah doesn’t cook, [her husband] Todd doesn’t cook — the kids would do it all themselves: cook, clean, do the laundry, and get ready for school.”

Johnston — who fathered a child with Palin’s daughter, Bristol, but ended up cancelling wedding plans after last year’s election — also said Palin quit her job as governor to cash in on her fame.

It was  a payday Palin started mulling within a few weeks of returning to Alaska after her failed run for vice president, Johnston wrote.

“She started talking about how nice it would be to quit and write a book or do a show and make ‘triple the money,'” Johnston said of Palin. “It was, to her, ‘not as hard.’ She would blatantly say, ‘I want to just take this money and quit being governor.’

Palin has said she quit to avoid becoming a lame duck and to push her conservative agenda from outside the political system.

Calls to Palin’s political action committee seeking comment on Johnston’s allegations were not immediately returned on Wednesday.

In one of the story’s more explosive charges, Johnston also alleges that Palin asked him and Bristol not to reveal Bristol’s pregnancy, and that she pushed to adopt the child as a way to keep the birth a secret.

“That way, she said, Bristol and I didn’t have to worry about a thing,” Johnston wrote.

“Sarah kept mentioning this plan,” he added. “She was nagging — she wouldn’t give up. She would say, ‘So, are you gonna let me adopt him?’ We both kept telling her we were definitely not going to let her adopt the baby.”

Johnston said that Palin’s own family life was far from the image of wedded bliss presented to the nation — she and Todd rarely slept in the same room, Johnston alleged, and the couple often screamed about getting divorced.

“Todd would say, ‘All right, do you want a divorce? Is that what you want? Let’s do it! Sign the papers!’ They’d either stop and be fine or Sarah would go to her room. That’s just how it was with them,” he wrote.

But Todd always knew who was boss, Johnston added.

“\[Sarah\] would tell Todd to mow the grass, hang things up, and clean the house. And Todd would listen to her when she spoke,” he wrote. “If she told Todd to do something, he’d do it.”

What Palin didn’t do much is two things for which she became famous during last year’s campaign: go to her son’s hockey games, or hunt wild animals.

“She pays no attention to her kids when the cameras aren’t around,” Johnston wrote. “[Her son] Track and I grew up playing hockey together, and I only saw her at about 15% of his games.”

As for hunting: “She says she goes hunting and lives off animal meat — I’ve never seen it,” wrote Johnston.

“She had a gun in her bedroom and one day she asked me to show her how to shoot it. I asked her what kind of gun it was, and she said she didn’t know, because it was in a box under her bed.

The real shame is that the created caricature of Sarah Palin will fail and our political jokes will not be as funny.  For Levi, he is the hater of the week.  In addition to that, he also helps Palin win the Whoops! I got caught up award…

If you are going to go out, go all out....
If you are going to go out, go all out….

See, this is why N.W.A. can make the classic song Fuck the Police and have it still remain in the lexicon and rotation of most hip hop fans, since they can relate to the hatred some have for the cops.  We talked about the NYPD during the Sean Bell murder and look what they did after the  Sean Bell Case.  They earned their spot as most hated.  But, with the Professor Gates incident, it looks like they have some serious competition.

Just putting another racist on blast....

Just putting another racist on blast....

He even has that racist look in his eye, like “Nigger, I see you and you better be flying straight, or I will lock your ass up!”  But, I wouldn’t put him on blast for nothing….The Daily News explains…

Suspended cop Justin Barrett who called Prof. Gates a ‘jungle monkey’ was turned in by fellow cops

Boston police officer Justin Barrett was suspended Wednesday, July 29, 2009, for using a racial slur to describe black Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr.

The Boston cop suspended for calling Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates a “banana-eating jungle monkey” in a mass e-mail was turned in by fellow cops.

This is the one time where Keeping it Real would be justified.  He really went there, didn’t he?  Plus, doesn’t he know that emails leave a trace behind?  The words on emails stick with you.  Remember when we had to deal with this and President Obama?

The revelation that Officer Justin Barrett‘s brothers in blue were also revolted by his hateful words came as the police commissioner tried to repair to reputation of Beantown’s police department.

“This type of venomous rhetoric is severely damaging,” Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis declared Thursday. “We will not allow the unacceptable actions of one member to define who we are.”

Davis said he has apologized to Gates on behalf of the department and they are now checking whether Barrett had any run-ins with blacks while on the job.

The only apology that I want is this guy never having the power of the badge again.  Words are cheap in this scenario, since the power of the words are not backed by action/power.

Barrett is also not getting any love from the local police union, which has denounced his remarks as “offensive and hurtful.”

“He’s gone,” Boston Mayor Tom Menino said of Barrett, who has already been suspended. “G-o-n-e. I don’t care, it’s like cancer. You don’t keep those cancers around.”

Barrett, 36, a cop for two years, has also been suspended by the National Guard, where he holds the rank of captain.
Earlier, Barrett insisted he was not a racist and “did not mean to offend anyone.”

“The words were being used to characterize behavior, not describe anyone,” Barrett told WCVB-TV.

Barrett conceded it was a “poor choice of words.”

“I didn’t mean it in a racist way,” he added. “I treat everyone with dignity and respect.”

Really?  Why wouldn’t we think that you are racist?  Jungle Bunny?  That is not a racist term is it?  This is the first image that comes up when you type in Jungle Bunny into Google…

there is clearly no racial connotation in this term....

there is clearly no racial connotation in this term....

But, I just slipped when I used the term cracker…

cracker ass cracker...but I meant that in a good way....

Barrett said he was “just venting” about the July 16 arrest of Gates by a white Cambridge cop that became a national discussion about race when President Obama said the officers acted “stupidly.”

“People are making it about race,” said Barrett, who vowed to fight any attempt to fire him. “It is not about race.”
But it may be about whether Barrett has any sense.

Barrett got into hot water after he fired off the note to his buddies on the force, in the Guard – and, inexplicably, The Boston Globe.

In the email, Barrett called the Globe story “jungle monkey gibberish” and wrote that Gates’ “first priority should be to get off the phone and comply with police.”

“For if I was the officer he verbally assaulted like a … jungle monkey, I would have sprayed him in the face with OC deserving of his belligerent non-compliance,” Barrett wrote.

OC is pepper spray.

just some 1963 pepper spray curtesy of Bull Connor, Chief Racist

just some 1963 pepper spray curtesy of Bull Connor, Chief Racist

You N@##$RS stink, let me wash the black off you....

You N@##$RS stink, let me wash the black off you....

Yeah…I bet that you would use only pepper spray.  That excuse hopefully doesn’t work and is not believed.  Here is a guy trying to work a similar rouse. Hopefully, for Oscar Grant, his family and friends, excuses like that will not work.

Barrett went on to question Gates’ credentials, called him a “God damned fool,” and twice challenged the paper to “ax” him what he thinks.

“I am not a racist, but I am prejudice [sic] towards people who are stupid and pretend to stand up and preach for something they claim is freedom,” Barrett wrote.

People think this about Boston, since this is not the first time racial incidents have happened recently.  We blogged about the student who was expelled from Harvard, because a killer was the same color as her. No, she didn’t commit the murders or help.

Remember the Ryan Moats fiasco? His mother in law was in the hospital dying on her last leg.  He ran a red light to get the hospital.  He waited, looked both wyas and ran it after seeing that there was no traffic.  But, once he got to the hospital, the cop wanted to sweat him and drew his gun.

Race still and always will matter.  Recognize that there is racism and you become part of the solution instead of part of the problem…there are still people who refuse to rent to blacks…

Even things that might be racist so some and not to others causes issues.  Look at the cartoon from the Post about the stimulus bill that Obama was pushing. Even if you don’t think that it (being the comic) is racist, look at the comment from the first poster.  How does my complaint mean that I should move to Africa?  That is why this is and should be an issue that we talk about, because when we allow it to bubble jsut below the source is when we have the most trouble when it erupts and it will…

So, please forgive me when I say I just don’t believe you when you say that you are not a racist….

The Guardian speculates that she stepped down in order to start her presidential run

Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice-presidential candidate who electrified her party’s campaign last year, has resigned as Alaska’s governor in a dramatic decision that has fuelled speculation she is positioning herself to run for president.

For me, it gives me time to have fun at someone’s expense.

Did you hear the rambling, incoherent speech?  It sounds like someone else we know.

But there is a difference.  You are never sure of the questions that you might get asked in the contest.  You can practice, but the heat of the moment can get you caught up.  Sarah Palin has no excuse.  She called the press, didn’t give all of them the opportunity to get there to hear her rambling statement of quitting.  In fact, it was so incoherent, the only thing that seems strange is that she would step down now.  You don’t have to run for re-election, but finish what you started.  Excuse me, what war did you fight?

But after an at times rambling speech in which she compared herself to battle wounded American soldiers in Kosovo and said only dead fish go with the flow, Palin’s critics accused her of a “flaky” decision and walking away from her post.

Palin, who built strong support among conservative Republicans as John McCain’s running mate last year, said she will step down in three weeks because she can contribute more away from politics.

“We know we can effect positive change outside government at this moment in time on another scale and actually make a difference for our priorities,” she said.

But, this where I get to have fun.  PUMAS are claiming the pie in the sky dream of having Palin run with Clinton…what are you smoking?  1) Hillary would never align herself with a loser like Palin. 2) Different Party, even allowing for your dream, there are so many other people she would align herself with than Palin it isn’t even funny. 3) Hillary lost against the incumbent and then went to work for him.

littleisis, on July 3rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm Said: This is such big news! Here is what I wrote on the thread before:

Well, if Palin is “Clintonian” than she has my vote, no doubt about it!
Here is my crazy ass speculation/theory: Sarah is resigning so she can Campaign in the lower 48 and build up money/grassroots support. Then, in 2010, Hillary resigns from the State Department, perhaps because Bill is sick or maybe she is pushed out or she resigns- all we know is, she all ready has her ‘No Limits” PAC and is raising money and building grassroots support that way all ready.
Then, in 2011, The Clintons and the Palins join forces to form a viable third party based on fiscal conservatism, responsible, activist government, and social liberalism. Hillary and Sarah join a ticket for their new party in 2012 and win the White House. Viola! Change is here!

Fundraise?  Right…good luck with that project.  PUMAS, how did retiring Hillary’s debt go?  Your fund raising ability has been called into question before.  The change you are bringing is the same that caused the Democrats to lose elections…

So this is who you want to align yourself with?  Republicans, who she kinda depends on now, think that her 15 minutes are up, oh about an hour ago.  You tried to pimp Letterman for some extension time, but that didn’t really work.  It didn’t work, because it was a joke. Remember your boycott PUMAS?  That also didn’t seem to work out too well for ya.  Get some facts and get back to me…All we learned after a year is that PUMAS are synonymous with losing.

But the timing, coming during one of the biggest American holidays of the year, independence day, raised questions among some of Republicans who accused her of attempting to escape falling poll numbers in Alaska as a series of economic problems and ethics investigations take their toll.

A prominent Republican strategist, Ed Rollins, who directed Ronald Reagan’s election campaign, said Palin had made a serious mistake.

“She was a shooting star who dimmed in recent months and now she’s crashed,” he said.

She is clearly seeking attention.  Thanks for putting you above the country.  This really could not have waited until Monday?  What was so pressing that you had to do it on the eve of Independence Day? Or, what are you hiding?  Are you pregnant again and need to keep the preying eyes off your impending birth?  Either way, the move doesn’t look good…

Palin’s resignation was swiftly criticised as “flaky” by her Democratic opponents who said it was part of a pattern of “bizarre” behaviour.

The Democratic National Committee said she is “leaving the people of Alaska high and dry … or she simply can’t handle the job now”.

The timing of the announcement on the eve of independence day led some critics to accuse her of trying to bury the news of her resignation. But given that almost nothing else was going on it might have been a move to dominate the news bulletins as it forced Michael Jackson’s death from the top slot.

Can’t MJ just get his moment in the sun where we can look back at his life?  Well you have something in common with him, in that your career is dead too…

“Some are going to question the timing of this, and let me say this decision has been in the works for quite a while,” Palin said.

Palin addressed the numerous ethics investigations launched in to her alleged misuse of office by saying that taxpayer money was being wasted and deriding them as part of the “superficial political blood sport” against her since she shot to prominence as McCain’s running mate.

So, you could have waited for everyone to get back from the holiday weekend, but you didn’t.  What is the pressing issue to release this now, if the decision had been in the works for a long time?  I think that it’s a rouse to avoid the hot lights of a full press corp.  That and the ethics things…it’s not a good look to have that hanging over your head.

I hope that you are still getting your advice from Mr. Greta Van Susteren. It didn’t work for you then, what makes you think that it is going to work now?  Remember when I claimed that it could be because of ethical violations?  You shouldn’t be shocked, since it comes from the leadership positions.  This is what he (as well as Greta) were found guilty of…

“By the end of 1996, the Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia had ruled that Coale and his wife were both guilty of professional misconduct in such solicitations, stating:

‘Accordingly, we find that respondents Allen, Coale, and Van Susteren engaged in professional misconduct by inducing others to initiate the improper telephone solicitations which we found violative of Rules 7.3(a) and 7.3(b)(1) of the Rules of Professional Conduct.’”

So we are just supposed to follow her after this…? ABCNews.com gives me something else to laugh at…BTW it would not have happened to us, because 1) We are trained speech professionals, 2) its called preparation, which she clearly didn’t have.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you’ve said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I’m just going to ask you one more time – not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.

You can have your Maverick, I will stick with Obama…

or this

I think that you can figure out the winners

I think that you can figure out the winners

That losing is hard and losers don’t take stock in their shortcomings…

That sounds harsh, and looking back at what I typed, without some context, you would think that might be somewhat misplaced.  But, as a former debate type, I come with evidence of my claims.

1) McCain support.

Some of the PUMA factions loved up John McCain, after Hillary dropped out of the race.  John McCain’s sacrifices are admirable for the country, and should not be forgotten.  But, as the leader of the country, I would definitely stop short before giving him the keys to the car.  But, some PUMA supporters STRONGLY PUSHED FOR HIS ELECTION.

Pat Johnson, on January 1st, 2009 at 11:05 am Said:

Most of us Dems voted McCain/Palin in protest. This was something new to the party who expected “unity” no matter what or who the candidate was or offered. This is what set us apart. We never gave in.

What you fail to realize is that not only is that NOT a protest vote, you do actually what John points out here...

Fortunately, the one who makes the biggest stink isn’t the one who wins.  Just because you have a cult like belief, doesn’t make your religion the right one for everyone.

What leader would urge you to protest your vote (something that they fought long and hard for the right for all of us to do so) to vote for the side that has done the least for your cause, historically and recently?

Politico talks about the boost that McCain received from Palin nomination.

ST. PAUL, Minn. — The selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate has electrified conservative activists, providing a boost of energy to the GOP nominee-in-waiting from a key constituency that previously had been lukewarm — at best — about him.

By tapping the anti-abortion and pro-gun Alaska governor just ahead of his convention, which is set to start here Monday, McCain hasn’t just won approval from a skeptical Republican base — he’s ignited a wave of elation and emotion that has led some grass-roots activists to weep with joy.

Now, don’t you feel a little suspicious about the pick?  Are you so blinded about the choice that you fail to see why the choice was made?  This had all feeling of a choice of convenience and political gain.  Kudos to McCain for attempting to get elected, but choosing him was a vote designed to punish your opponent.  Again, for PUMAS, they live the “the enemy of my enemy is my friend…” to the fullest.

Most importantly for McCain, the two constituencies who are most energized by Palin just happen to be the twin grassroots pillars of the GOP: anti-abortion activists and pro-Second Amendment enthusiasts and sportsmen. Without these two camps making phone calls, stuffing envelopes and knocking on doors, Republican presidential candidates would severely lack for volunteers. They are critical to the health of the conservative coalition that has dominated Republican politics for a generation.

Republicans say the primary source for the passion can be found in Palin’s example and authenticity.

Not only is the 44-year-old governor opposed to abortion rights — but she carried and gave birth to a child with Down syndrome earlier this year, a profound and powerful motivating force to both opponents of abortion rights and the parents and relatives of special needs children.

Even if you think that Obama has not done all he can to get to abortion, the right wingers won with the murder of Dr. Tiller.  Your reproduction rights would not have been safe.

Anti-Abortion forces win, with this murder, but isnt this (murder) what they are supposed to be against?

Anti-Abortion forces win, with this murder, but isn't this (murder) what they are supposed to be against?

Here was McCain on Abortion from Time

McCain’s straightforward answer, along with his assertion that he would not have nominated any of the Supreme Court’s four liberal judges (notwithstanding that he voted to confirm all but John Paul Stevens, who was named before McCain was in the Senate), had social conservatives breathing sighs of relief. “I will be a pro-life president, and this presidency will have pro-life policies,” McCain said to cheers from the audience.

So, even if you think that Obama is not pro-choice enough, he is more than McCain.  But, the usual story of Hillary supporters who voted for McCain make the argument that the candidate supported their views.  That is a difficult one to reconcile.

2) Random Obama Hatred

Yes, he beat your choice.  That happens all the time.  But, this was the year that a small and vocal crowd never let up with their belief their candidate was the best one for the job and that she really won.  I really would have respected a write in campaign for her, and allowed that to be the measuring stick of her power.  Now, that the election is over, you don’t need to hate.  Hate the ballot measures, no need to hate the man.  You can go to any random post at the Confluence or other PUMA affiliated sites and STILL see the pain that they face with Obama winning.  They take the slogan hate the player not the game to a new level.

Sophie, on June 1st, 2009 at 7:46 am Said: The infatuation matters because Obama’s ambitions are so grand.
If only. I’m still reeling from yesterday, its history and significance. This last year has been the worst of my life and I lay it squarely at the feet of whoever this puppet master is. There really is no where for me to go politically in America. I disagree with the Republicans on 98% of the issues and I think the Democrats are too stupid to vote or govern their way out of a paper bag.

Regency, on May 31st, 2009 at 5:59 pm Said: I thought I was crazy for still grieving over this day. I know now that I’m not. I keep feeling robbed and it’s just hard to even see the words “President Obama” knowing that the ending should have been very different. This was the turning point if there ever was one.

The thing that I have going on is why?  Why should the ending be any different?  The thing that they go to immediately is that Hillary won the popular vote.  Well, if that was worth something, then we would be calling her Madame President, or President Clinton.  There is a reason that our system is set up to balance population with area. But, we are reduced to calling her Secretary Clinton. (which is somewhat ironically sexist, since most secretaries are female and it has been a position where women have been the most subservient and mistreated…)
Just replace Star Trek with PUMA Convention and you get the idea...

Just replace Star Trek with PUMA Convention and you get the idea...

3) Racism (again in an ironic twist, the German newspaper Das Spiegel has the article from Harvard Sociologist Olando Patterson that talks about some of the more subtle forms of racism that exist, in particular, the 3a.m. commercial

Did the message get through? Well, consider this: people who voted early went overwhelmingly for Mr. Obama; those who made up their minds during the three days after the ad was broadcast voted heavily for Mrs. Clinton.

For more than a century, American politicians have played on racial fears to divide the electorate and mobilize xenophobic parties. Blacks have been the “domestic enemy,” the eternal outsider within, who could always inspire unity among “we whites.” Richard Nixon’s Southern strategy was built on this premise, using coded language — “law and order,” “silent majority” — to destroy the alliance between blacks and white labor that had been the foundation of the Democratic Party, and to bring about the Republican ascendancy of the past several decades. The Willie Horton ad that George H. W. Bush used against Michael Dukakis in 1988 was a crude manifestation of this strategy — as was the racist attack used against John McCain’s daughter, who was adopted from Bangladesh, in the South Carolina Republican primary in 2000.

It is possible that what I saw in the ad is different from what Mrs. Clinton and her operatives saw and intended. But as I watched it again and again I could not help but think of the sorry pass to which we may have come — that someone could be trading on the darkened memories of a twisted past that Mr. Obama has struggled to transcend.

It is significant that the Clinton campaign used its telephone ad in Texas, where a Fox poll conducted Feb. 26 to 28 showed that whites favored Mr. Obama over Mrs. Clinton 47 percent to 44 percent, and not in Ohio, where she held a comfortable 16-point lead among whites. Exit polls on March 4 showed the ad’s effect in Texas: a 12-point swing to 56 percent of white votes toward Mrs. Clinton. It is striking, too, that during the same weekend the ad was broadcast, Mrs. Clinton refused to state unambiguously that Mr. Obama is a Christian and has never been a Muslim.
When looking and measuring racism, you can use the metric of overt versus covert racism to evaluate.   With isms, I tend to default to the group being discussed.  just like I won’t fully know the issues that women face, whites won’t fully know the issues that I face as someone who is black/Afro-American, or whatever term you want to use.
The bigger issue that I see is the steadfast refusal to see where racism has happened.  This has happened on blogs throughout the blog-o-sphere.  Another comment on the subject at the Confluence proves what the issue is.
bostonboomer, on May 5th, 2009 at 7:24 am Said: I think you’re right about the people who are using reaction formation as a defense. Many Obots voted for Obama *because* he is part African American and his skin is light brown, in order to assuage their own guilt and fear. Some of us were actually able to look at Obama’s past history and his stated policies instead of the color of his skin.

Defense mechanisms are entirely unconscious, and that makes it very difficult for people to see their own behaviors and their consequences. The over-the-top reactions are the key. Overreaction that can easily be seen by others is typical of reaction formation.

Of course these Obots are also using projection–seeing their own extreme emotions in others.

So, wouldn’t that be true of all races?  Maybe the support for McCain was built on that exact same theme?  But, to a larger point, what is with all the Hillary supporters attempting to minimize Obama’s blackness?  If you are even 1/16 black and have a decent tan, you are and always will be considered black.   But, when it suits them, they point out that he is bi-racial, when in the system, they really do not care about that.  Look at any form that asks about ethnicity.  They don’t care that you are part-white, the blackness is what it is all about.
Brent Stables, an author and editor for the New York Times writes, seemingly with the help of a crystal ball…

The arguments being raised about Mr. Obama’s blackness — or his lack of blackness — seem positively antique at a time when Americans are moving away from the view of ancestry as a central demographic fact and toward a view that dispenses with those traditional boundaries. Even so, the complaints about Mr. Obama provide an interesting opportunity to examine the passing of the old and the rise of the new.

The claim that the candidate isn’t really black because his mother is white carries little weight under either system. It makes no sense at all to the young Americans who checked more than one box when identifying themselves by race in the last census. They subscribe to a fluid notion of race and seem perfectly willing to let people describe themselves racially any way they choose.

Nor does the charge make sense in the black community itself. That community has historically and eagerly embraced as black anyone and everyone with any African ancestry to speak of. That embrace often included interracial families, who lived in black communities long before they were accepted elsewhere. It included even blue-eyed, sandy-haired people like the civil rights leader Walter White, whose black ancestry was imperceptible to the naked eye.

The carpetbagging black Republican Alan Keyes opened up this racialist can of worms when he opposed Mr. Obama in the Illinois Senate race back in 2004. Badly outmatched and reaching for any brick he could find, Mr. Keyes blurted out that Mr. Obama was not black because he was not descended from slaves. The Daily News columnist Stanley Crouch later seemed to second that view, saying that Mr. Obama had not “lived the life of a black American.”
He continues later in the article with the conclusion

His critics are at least right when they describe his journey as a departure from the customary stereotype. But they are fundamentally wrong when they try to argue that the journey described in his affecting 1995 memoir, “Dreams From My Father,” is somehow incompatible with blackness.

At bottom, the hue and cry over Barack Obama’s identity stems from a failure by black traditionalists to recognize multiracial versions of themselves. Soon enough, perhaps by year’s end, however, the Obama story, which seems so exotic to so many people now, will have found its place among all the other stories of the sprawling black diaspora.
I am not even going to get into the racist and hateful things that were said about Michelle Obama.  We both know it existed Confluence, so lets both not pretend that your commentators didn’t say those things.
4) Broken Crystal Balls
Even before the race was run, Confluence supporters wanted to believe against facts that Obama was going to win.  Numbers are lies, people wanted to hide their true votes, undecided were clearly people that were Hillary supporters that are going to take the leap, are the usual lines that you heard.
Joanelle, on October 31st, 2008 at 10:43 am Said: Oh, boy, I went to an awards dinner last night and ended up being invited to sit at the “reserved” table (head table) but when I sat I found that five out of the seven of us were Obots – who carefully assured us all that Obama will be elected next week so we had nothing to worry about. The other three of us just sat there and smiled – mainly because we knew they were wrong but didn’t want to ruin their meal. :evil:

You MEANT that you HOPED that they were wrong, but they ended up being right.  How do you feel now?  I bet rather foolish and if you saw those people again, they should be like, ” IN YOUR FACE!”

The Prologue: Where do they go from here?

If I was the Confluence, I would stop the label of PUMA.  It was a funny, off the cuff quip that has lost its flavor like a piece of gum that that has been chewed for an hour.  It’s stale and the rhetoric is stale around the Confluence house.  Change the diapers of the baby!

You have some things that are definitely worth saving. Most of the people there are not ignorant, in fact they are mostly very bright individuals who are so tied up into their cause, they reject others with ad-homs.  Gotta build bridges, not continue to build trenches around your position.  If you have beliefs, don’t shy away from debate.  Good ideas rise to the top and bad ones sink to the bottom.

The tradition in the blog-o-sphere is to aviod debate and limit discussion of various topics if they are opposite than yours.  It should be exaclty the opposite.  If someone has a different view, invite them to debate.  Facts will stand at the end of the debate.  You should never feel the need to ban discussion or commentors unless they can only go to ad-homs, which some frontpagers are great at.  (You know who…lol)

Here is what I am going to do…you should too…

Not that I am going to watch, because I never do, but I am definitely interested on what they are going to talk about.

Oprah: So, Elizabeth, how is it living with that cheating, lying bastard?  Didn’t he give you cancer?

Elizabeth:  Well, we are working on it one day at a time, since , well you know, I have cancer and no day is really promised.

O: So fans, look under your seat right now, and I have something for each studio audience…. (pause for studio audience to reach under their seat and grab the goodie bag) FREE RADIATION TREATMENTS!

You wont even need a doctor to operate!

You won't even need a doctor to operate!

What I have to ask John Edwards was… Was it worth it?

This is what they call Magic Box...

This is what they call Magic Box...

Was the box so good that it was worth most importantly potentially destroying your marriage and causing untold amounts of embarrassment and snickering? What about your political career?  Even if you were never going to be President ( and you had a chance) you had a good life set up as a public servant.  Now you are going to fade into a jeopardy question or trivial pursuit question for a wedge…

Elizabeth Edwards interview with Oprah: ‘No idea’ if John Edwards fathered Rielle Hunter’s baby

Updated Tuesday, May 5th 2009, 6:13 PM

Despite John Edwards‘ denials that he fathered a baby with his onetime mistress, his betrayed wife Elizabeth said she has “no idea” whether the former presidential candidate is a new dad.

In an exclusive interview set to air Thursday, Oprah Winfrey asks Elizabeth Edwards about rampant speculation that he is the father of campaign videographer Rielle Hunter‘s one-year-old daughter.

“I’ve seen a picture of the baby. I have no idea.  It doesn’t look like my children but I don’t have any idea,” Edwards told Winfrey.

Edwards talked about the state of her marriage, her husband’s infidelity and her ongoing battle with terminal cancer. Last week, the Daily News published an exclusive report about Elizabeth Edwards’ new memoir “Resilience” in which recounts how she publicly stood by her cheating husband’s side in his failed presidential campaign.

Winfrey asked Edwards directly whether she’s still in love with her husband.

“You know, that’s a complicated question,” she said.

The couple is still living together in their 28,000-square-foot home in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

Asked if their relationship is day to day, Edwards replied, “Neither one of us is out the door so I guess it’s day by day, but maybe it’s month by month.”

In a portion of the interview that will be chronicled in the June issue of O magazine, Edwards offered an explanation for why her husband might have been attracted to Hunter.

“This person is very different from me, and really very different from him,” she said. “We’re basically old-fashioned people.  So, this was a pretty big leap for him.  Maybe it’s being so different is what was attractive.”

As she revealed in her memoir, Elizabeth Edwards told Winfrey she specifically requested fidelity from her husband when they married.

“I wanted him to be faithful to me – it was enormously important to me,” she said.

Edwards told Winfrey how Hunter used a tawdry pick-up line to lure her husband.

“What John said is that this woman spotted him in the hotel in which he was staying. He was meeting someone in the restaurant bar area and she verified with someone who he worked with that it was John,” she said.

“John went to dinner at a nearby restaurant and when he walked back to the hotel she was standing in front of the hotel. She said to him, ‘You are so hot.'”

Edwards, who has dealt with tragedy before when the couple’s 16-year-old son, Wade, died in an auto accident, said she is not scared of dying.

“It’s not as frightening,” she said. “If there’s an ever after – please, please, please – I would be leaving part of my family, but I can do and join another party, and wait for that day when we’re all together again.  In some ways it’s something you yearn for.”

John Edwards did not publicly admit the affair with Hunter until last August – seven months after he quit the presidential race, and the National Enquirer had reported he was the father of Hunter’s daughter.

At the time, Edwards adamantly denied paternity. Elizabeth Edwards did not mention the baby in her new book.

The part where she said that she didn’t think that the child looked like her other ones is laughable, if it wasn’t so sad.  Of course it will not look like your others, since the baby mom’s is NOT YOU!

To get back to the subject at hand, what the hell was John Edwards doing?  was he following the Gary Hart playbook to win the presidency?

Keep it in your pants....at least until you actually win something...

Keep it in your pants....at least until you actually win something...

I mean, settle down big boy.  Here is the BEST picture I could find of his jump-off.

Maureen Dowd at the Times tackles the question about should he (at least once he knew the fire was hot) suspend the campaign?

Elizabeth Edwards would have made a wonderful candidate herself. But she poured everything into John. And then John betrayed her. And then John betrayed his staffers, going ahead with the 2008 campaign, letting his disciples work around the clock because they believed in him and what he was running on, even though the Edwardses knew it could implode at any minute because of John’s entanglement with Rielle Hunter.

So, to highlight a certain point, Elizabeth Edwards KNEW in 2006 that John was having an affair, yet she stood by him during the campaign trail.  She was jut enabling her bad behavior.  It is the same for Hillary Clinton.  I know (not really, just on the the blogosphere) people who defend Hillary for her toughness, but why couldn’t she control Bill?  Or better yet, why didn’t she just leave his ass, since we all ( and this I do believe) that she is a strong woman?  was it the attention or the love of politics?  we will really never know, but she enabled Bill to do those things, since he didn’t have a fear of reprisal.  A couple of alligator tears and a  promise not to do it again, led to forgiveness.

I would rather ask for forgiveness than ask for permission

I would rather ask for forgiveness than ask for permission

Like Monica and Gennifer before her, Rielle was not a discreet choice. She inspired the literary character of Alison Poole, “an ostensibly jaded, sexually voracious” New York party girl who had the lead in Jay McInerney’s novel “Story of My Life” and in a short story in his new book, “How It Ended,” as well as a couple of walk-ons in novels by Bret Easton Ellis.

John told her a little about Rielle a few days after he announced in 2006, and she told him to drop out to “protect our family from this woman, from his act,” she writes.

She said she cried, screamed and threw up when she found out. But she ended up going along, helping sell the voters on her husband’s character as a truth teller and charm as a loving husband and father. She had put so many quarters in the shiny slot machine of their mutual ambition. It was hard to walk away.

Just as it’s hard to walk away from her desire to prosecute her husband and his former girlfriend now in public, while still taking the marriage “month by month.”

I think that Maureen Dowd has a good point.  What is this woman’s angle? Why is she writing a book about the experience?  I know that it could have a uplifting and freeing experience, but so would writing in a journal.  You are exposing yourself and your dirt for all to read, for a few sheckles.

But it’s just a gratuitous peek into their lives, and one that exposes her kids, by peddling more dregs about their personal family life in a book, and exposes the ex-girlfriend who’s now trying to raise the baby girl, a dead ringer for John Edwards, in South Orange, N.J.

Elizabeth said when they married, the only gift she asked John for was to be faithful.

“It didn’t occur to me that at a fancy hotel in New York, where he sat with a potential donor to his antipoverty work,” Elizabeth writes in her book, “he would be targeted by a woman who would confirm that the man at the table was John Edwards and then would wait for him outside the hotel hours later when he returned from a dinner, wait with the come-on line ‘You are so hot’ and an idea that she should travel with him and make videos. And if you had asked me to wager that house we were building on whether my husband of then 28 years would have responded to a come-on line like that, I would have said no.”

She may be smart, but she doesn’t seem to know much about men.

Do you think?  A lot of men are dog, but a lot are not.  If you find fleas, then you probably have a dog.  You might meet a great boyfriend at the club, but you are not going to find your dream man there.  I found a lot of great girls at the club, some that would have even made great baby’s mamas, but not one to marry and have a life with.

Like Hillary with Monica, the feminist struck out at the girlfriend, implying that Rielle was a wacky stalker.

“We’re basically old-fashioned people,” Elizabeth told O magazine. “So this was a pretty big leap for him. Maybe it’s being so different is what was attractive.”

No, Elizabeth, what’s attractive is attractiveness.

Plus, he traded in for the younger model, that wasn’t called back for having a terminal failure (re: cancer)

But, she can get paid at least…

This is where the blog first took it’s turn as a step away from the childish toys of our youth, but not quite towards our fathers Vitalis…

The Maxim Top 100 is a list of the most beautiful women that have caught our eye.  The First Lady has managed to crack the list with a grace and beauty that captivated the masses.

She broke on the list in position #93…

The First Lady is No. 93. according to Philly.com.

Yesterday, Maxim magazine released the first 10 names on its annual “eyeball-searing, fantasy-fulfilling, brain-exploding” Hot 100, and there, between an “awesome Aussie” TV star and a “mind-blowingly sexy” supermodel was Michelle Obama.

Yes, the one in the White House.

What’s she doing in such a “stimulus package”?

Well, Maxim says its knows a “political bombshell” when it sees one, pledging its allegience to “the hottest First Lady in the history of these United States. (Sorry, Martha Washington!)”

This is a lot better than all the discussion Michelle’s footwear has brought. This is what the LA Times is speculating on, instead of worrying about their financial future

First Lady Michelle Obama, who’s become quite the fashion role model with her J.Crew wear and buff-arm-spotlighting sleeveless frocks, is under scrutiny for what she wore on her feet the other day.

They’re trendy Lanvin sneakers. Which look really nice and comfy and all. Trouble is, they cost $540. If you can find a pair anywhere.

And, of course, if you’ve got $540, plus — what? — 9 or 10% tax in some places. Which seems like a lot for two shoes not guaranteed to benefit your jump shot.

So, if she was a basketball player, her footwear would be okay? She can spend that on a pair of Jordans, but no other brand?  Do you know how much a nice pair of comfortable dress shoes cost for men?  Exactly… People need to get over themselves.  Shoes are not an issue and this post further proves that. While we would disagree on Palin’s (more to me Republican issue of spending campaign contributions on fashion, not that she wore any one thing) clothes and MO’s clothes, this shouldn’t be an issue

The other trouble is that — wait for it — she wore them to a poverty event, a Capitol Area Food Bank for Feeding America to provide much appreciated help and publicity to benefit the food bank.

Mrs. Obama  also has gone to serve a lunch hour at soup kitchens in Washington, where an unidentified presumably homeless person showed up with a camera cellphone to capture Mrs. Obama, who kindly posed for the man.

We have a video review below of Michelle Obama’s first 100 days too.

First Lady Michelle Obama's fancy $540 Sneakers close up

The sharp-eyed Amy Diluna was first to spot the first lady footwear contradiction here.

Sharp-memoried politics readers will recall all the positive attention Mrs. Obama garnered during the presidential campaign for her everyday, every-woman $150 dresses from Black & White Market.

While Cindy McCain, John’s wealthy wife, and some woman from Alaska both attracted negative attention for their expensive clothing, some of it reputedly borrowed.

(FYI, Michelle Obama is a Democrat. The other two women are Republicans. But what could that have to do with anything?)

Diluna also notes about Mrs. Obama: “A week ago, she shoveled dirt at a tree planting while wearing the line’s chiffon tank. Dresses and strappy pumps cost upward of $1,500, while tops go for $400 to $1,000.” An online poll by the N.Y. Daily news finds 59% think the shoe choice was in poor taste for a poverty event.

Now, the video below.

How many of them actually voted?  So, the lady goes to help out at a soup kitchen and you are worried about what shoes she is wearing?  This is trying too hard, or as my kids in Richmond used to say, “You are doing too much….”

— Andrew Malcolm

Just behind Obama at 94 was Yvonne Strahovski, the Down Under actress who costars in NBC’s Chuck.

Who knew that some show nobody watches would get me shine?

Who knew that some show nobody watches would get me shine?

And just ahead at 92 was “blonde and Polish” supermodel Joanna Krupa, star of some sizzling PETA ads.

I am bald down below because I hate FUR!

I am bald down below because I hate FUR!

The countdown continues today, with numbers 81 to 90, at Maxim.com.

One of my favorite movies is the Princess Bride.  There are a lot of funny moments that turn into life lessons.

The Courtship…

The Prince

The Prince

Princess Buttercup... not bad 22 years later...

[Buttercup] “I’ll never love you.”
[Humperdinck] “I wouldn’t want it if I had it.”
“Then by all means let us marry.”

That seems like the issue in a lot of marriages… They are established for convenience, not because of love.  Even when you think that you have love, it can be either lust, or deep like….they can fool you really easy since they look alike.. Bristol and Levi may just have discovered that they liked each other, but not enough to actually get married and stuff…

Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston split

Pregnancy announcement followed by promise they’d marry, but outcome is a typical one

When last we left the Palin family, teenage daughter Bristol had given birth to a child and was planning a summer wedding with the child’s father, the strapping, hockey-playing Levi Johnston.

But now the engagement that nearly knocked the Republican National Convention off its platform is kaput, and a voyeuristic nation is again tuned in to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin‘s soap-opera-esque life.

And yet after the announcement during the presidential race that Palin had a pregnant teenage daughter, the McCain-Palin campaign was quick to assure everyone that the two would be married and the Palins released a statement saying the couple “will have the love and support of our entire family.”

  • “The Prince and I have never from the beginning lied to each other. He knows I do not love him.”
    “Are not capable of love is what you mean.”
    “I’m very capable of love,” Buttercup said.
    “Hold your tongue, I think.”
    “I have loved more deeply than a killer like you can possibly imagine.”
    He slapped her.
  • “I loved once,” Buttercup said after a moment. “It worked out badly.”
    “Another rich man? Yes, and he left you for a richer woman.”
    “No. Poor. Poor and it killed him.”
    “Were you sorry? Did you feel pain? Admit that you felt nothing -”
    “Do not mock my grief! I died that day.”
  • While he was watching the ships, Buttercup shoved him with all her strength remaining…down went the man in black…”You can die too for all I care,” she said, and then she turned away.
    Words followed her. Whispered from afar, weak and warm and familiar. “As…you…wish…”

While the news of the pregnancy brought cries of hypocrisy from the left, with liberals quick to note her mother’s support of abstinence, it drew many conservatives to Palin’s side, eager to defend her. This, after all, was a family like any other, a family with problems, and the presence of a pregnant teen seemed to humanize Palin.

Far be it from me to be hypocritical and suggest that they used him for his rugged good looks and to be the face of the convention.  Okay, I am hypocritical and I will say that they used him to quell the fires of discontent that had started creeping up.  People were questioning whether McCain fully vetted his choice and her family.  Ultimately,  it was a good move and it made her a little more likable and made it seem like a nuclear family would rise from the ashes.

They brought Johnston to the convention, dressed in suit and tie, smiling and seated next to Bristol. In an interview with The Associated Press in October, he said, “We both love each other. We both want to marry each other. And that’s what we are going to do.”But the deck was stacked against them. Many pregnant teens are optimistic about the chances of marrying the father of their child. Albert said one-third of unmarried teen mothers say they’re “certain” they’ll marry the biological father, while an additional 23 percent say their chances of marrying are “good.

see… that is why you have to keep the shotgun on him until the words have been spoken.  They will always get away if left to their own devices…

“The notion that Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston’s experience here is in any way unique couldn’t be further from the truth,” Albert said. “Marriage and birth patterns in teens have changed over time, shifting from a general trend of marrying before pregnancy to marrying as a result of pregnancy to becoming pregnant and not marrying.”

And those who do marry don’t fare well. Teen marriages are twice as likely to fail as marriages in which the woman is at least 25 years old.

Perhaps as predictable as this high-profile breakup is the reaction from gawkers on both sides of the political fence.

“Within her base, I think this will just increase sympathy and support,” said Gary Alan Fine, a Northwestern University sociology professor who studies political reputations. “It will make her seem more like a person who has to confront the challenges of life, and this is one of them. If you’re a fundamentalist or a devout Christian, you don’t believe you’re living in a world without sin, you don’t believe people don’t make mistakes.”

And for those who love to hate Palin, this is another arrow in their quiver.

“It just adds a kind of frisson of joy, a little pleasure,” Fine posited. “It confirms the kind of Beverly Hillbillies aspect, the lower-middle-class qualities that people saw in Sarah Palin.”

During the campaign, Barack Obama made clear that Palin’s family was off-limits, and the McCain campaign excoriated the media for even asking questions about Bristol’s pregnancy. So it’s unlikely that much political hay will be made of this latest chapter.

“You really can’t make too much out of it,” said Victoria DeFrancesco Soto, a faculty fellow at Northwestern’s Institute for Policy Research. “I think Palin’s going to take advantage of this boundary that exists to deflect any negative attention, and then she’s going to frame it as a mother having unconditional love for her baby girl.”

And leave everyone waiting to see what happens next.

They are clapping for entirely two different reasons... She is clapping because she thinks she has a husband AND baby daddy and he is clapping because of all the other box he can score... get it?  He is a hockey player and his job is to put the biscuit in the basket...

They are clapping for entirely two different reasons… She is clapping because she thinks she has a husband AND baby daddy and he is clapping because of all the other box he can score… get it? He is a hockey player and his job is to put the biscuit in the basket…

This is what marriage is all about…

Some people are just haters. I love haters and personally we love them here at Too Old. But, our standard for hating is that you have a point, you can defend your point and then be able to articulate what you are hating on.

We make fun of this other blog, the Confluence. They are filled with hate over the fact that Obama won the election. It keeps me warm at night knowing that they are still steamed and are going to be devastated in four years with a re-election. You should have read their blog. It was as if someone very close to them had suddenly died.  They might have been the only ones not to read the tea leaves to see that beatdown happening. The only thing that they have going for them is that they don’t hate for the color of his skin, they just hate the game and that’s okay. But, occasionally, they need to be reigned in on their haterade drinking. I hate liberals who talk out both sides of their mouth. They will espouse freedoms for all and then censor a comment, since they got played. (Ed. note we dont have a need to censor your comments.  We are funnier than most of you, like 99.9% and will have fun answering your comments)

The most recent hate comes from Angie, who is a frequent commenter on the blog, but usually has little to say of substance. If you are pro-Obama, to her, you must be an idiot. First, a pre-empt, since I already know where you are going…

Their favorite argument is, “What has Obama done?” The Huffington Post crushes this argument out

No doubt, Watson — and anyone acting as an Obama campaign surrogate — should be able to rapidly list the important issues that the Illinois Senator has championed. This includes the Lugar-Obama legislation that has helped decrease the threat of old nuclear, biological, and chemical weapon in the former Soviet Union and the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 which Obama co-authored and that led to USAspending.gov, which keeps Americans better informed on government spending.

So, the Confluence would act like this piece of legislation never happened.

Obama has also been very active in legislation to end the Iraq war and the much-heralded Dignified Treatment of Wounded Warriors Act, which passed in July of 2007 and addressed the hideous treatment received by Veterans under the Bush administration, began its legislative life as the Dignity for Wounded Warriors Act, introduced by Obama earlier in the year.

I would challenge the Confluence to point to legislation that Hillary Clinton got passed during the same two years that they were in the Senate. The HRC definitely has some age and more “time” in the Senate, but this is an important piece of bi-partisan legislation. So, don’t act like he hasn’t done anything in his three years in the Senate. They also act like he isn’t educated, but please. Among the top of the class in law school, lecturer at a law school, enough said, especially considering the Ivy connection. The rest of the article slays this tired line that the Confluence and other haters attempt to roll with

But here’s the thing that any person going on television to represent Obama should repeat without end — and that should also be a part of the Obama campaign’s standard playbook: No Democrat, including Senator Hillary Clinton has been able to do one hell of a lot that meets the accomplishment benchmark of “passed legislation” in a time of unending, record-setting Republican obstructionism.

Obama has been in the Senate for three years, two of which were spent with a Republican majority that would not even let legislation sponsored by Democrats reach the floor for a vote and, on the few occasions where Bill Frist granted such a luxury, Republicans shot down most Democratic initiatives with extreme prejudice.

In the current (110th) Congress, the Republican minority has blocked everything but the Senate chaplain’s morning prayer and is on pace by a wide margin to filibuster more legislation than any Senate in U.S. history.

Game, set, match…

Their hatred doesn’t only cause them to talk reckless about Barack, they drag their haterade and throw in Michelle’s way.

Recently, they hate on the story of Michelle getting Lobster and caviar. They talk about calling her bougsie (short for Bourgeoisie (RP /ˌbʊ.ʒwɑːˈzi/ or /ˌbɔː.ʒwɑːˈzi/, GA /ˌbʊ(r).ʒwɑˈzi/) [1] is a classification used in analyzing human societies to describe a social class of people. The bourgeoisie are members of the upper or merchant class, whose status or power comes from employment, education, and wealth. They are distinguished from those whose power comes from being born into an aristocratic family.

Anytime you see brotha and sistas climb the ladder and get some shine, you hate on them.  Biggie had it right, Mo Money, Mo Problems…

Again, the problem is that the story is not true. There have been several retractions of the story. The NY Post is one of the places that the retraction happened.


October 21, 2008 —

THE source who told us last week about Michelle
Obama getting lobster and caviar delivered to her room at the Waldorf-Astoria must have been under the influence of a mind-altering drug. She was not even staying at the Waldorf. We regret the mistake, and our former source is going to regret it, too. Bread and water would be too good for such disinformation.

Now, the issue is the ring. The 30K ring that is awesome. It might not be for all, but you can’t hate on the ring. Maybe they are mad that no one is dropping skrilla on them like that, but, I digress. Lets look at some of the comments from totally ignorant, sexist when it suits them fools.


Without question that ring is straight fire! Look for it to be the next new hot item for rappers to floss with! Platinum is so played out compared to this!

FACT CHECK: Michelle Obama won’t get pricey ring

1 day ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Looks like Michelle Obama won’t be setting aside her fake pearls in favor of a $30,000 thank you ring from her husband.

London tabloids reported that President-elect Barack Obama was buying a pricey rhodium ring from Italian designer Giovanni Bosco for his wife. But there’s no truth to the report, said Obama spokesman Dan Pfeiffer.

The rumor began overseas and made the rounds of American blogs, including the Drudge Report.

The office of Giovanni Bosco, reached in northern Italy, also said the reports were incorrect.

angienc, on December 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm Said:

Briana — FACT CHECK my @ss — I expected these bs denials just like they did with the caviar & lobster story at the Waldorf — I fully believe he bought that ring, just like I fully believe MEchelle ate that lunch. I don’t care what FACT CHECK denials are issued. The press will pretend he didn’t buy the ring just like they pretended their wasn’t any fraud or voter intimidation during the primary.

Here is the problem AngieNC, you don’t get to have it both ways. Do you believe the media, or not believe the media?

1) Why believe the media now? The ring story is continued in cyberspace by blogs and Drudge. So, you are saying you agree with him now that it is convenient since its against a sworn enemy? You hate on Drudge all the time, why stop now?

2) Both the designer who was alleged to have crafted the ring and the Obamas deny the story. It doesn’t fit with the carefully crafted narrative that we have been exposed to. Why break ranks now?

3) Angie, why believe the caviar and lobster story when MOST in the blogsphere don’t believe that story. Is it just hate that drives these beliefs or actual facts?

It’s okay to hate the game, and even hate the player, but at least admit its hate and not facts that drive the engine

Finally, the money that was spent in the election and the Palin wardrobe situation is the same thing that I saw you rail against, but you seemingly have no problem using it against the Obama crowd. It seems that the 30% solution that is espoused is only (and again this is just my perspective that I gathered over the last couple of days with the Condy Rice and some of the vitriol spewed there) that is only women that are white. I know that this isn’t the case, but that is how it has sounded the last few days.

When you take shots at women and what they wear or what they look like, then you take away from what is important, which is what they stand for and what they are about are the questions you should concern yourself with. Like Palin campaigning for Chambliss and the fact that people and PUMAS are willing to overlook her governance for her gender…

Sarah Palin on October 18th at a campaign rally in Lancaster, Pennsylvania:

Hulk, you got nothing on me! Palinmanics are going to run wild on you!

Hulk, you got nothing on me! Palinmanics are going to run wild on you!

Your pythons still need some work girl…

Game Over... You are crushed out!

Game Over... You are crushed out!

campaigning for Chambliss Dec 1st

Yes, we will...

Damn, I love this coat! Q: Do you think that they will miss it it I keep it? A: Yes, we will...

Now, if I start talking about the fact that she seemingly lied when she and the campaign said that all the clothes went back to the designers or the stores, (or donated…to Gov. Palins closet, her favorite place to shop…) would she be lying then, or now?

McCain: 1/3 Palin Clothes Already Returned

WATERLOO, Iowa, Oct. 26, 2008


(CBS/AP) Republican John McCain said Sunday that one-third of the $150,000 that the GOP spent on clothing and accessories for his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and her family, “is given back.”

McCain strategist Mark Salter said “about a third of it was returned immediately” because they were the wrong size, or for other reasons.

Salter’s explanation was the first time the campaign has said any of the items had been returned.

Last week after the purchases at such high-end department stores as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus appeared in campaign spending reports filed with the government, McCain and his aides repeatedly said the clothes would be donated to charity after the election.

News of such expensive clothes offered a stark contrast to Palin’s image as an average “hockey mom.”

Tracey Schmitt, Palin’s campaign spokeswoman, said some of the clothing was returned after the Republican National Convention in September. The governor generally wears her own outfits on the campaign trail, Schmitt said.

“A third was returned post-convention,” she said. “Many of the remaining clothes have never been worn.”

Schmitt said Palin intended to donate the items she has worn to charity.

“Regardless, what wasn’t returned will go to charity after Election Day,” said Schmitt.

Asked about Palin as he was interviewed on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” McCain rejected the notion that Palin is unqualified to be president and that she is hurting is campaign for the presidency. He also was questioned about the clothing purchases.

“Look, she lives a frugal life. She and her family are not wealthy. She and her family were thrust into this, and there was some – and some third of that money is given back, the rest will be donated to charity,” he said.

“Americans right now care about whether they’re going to stay in their homes, whether they’re going to have a job, whether they’re going to be able to keep their health insurance, if we’re going to come out of this ditch that we’re in,” McCain added. “They want change. They want reform. She is a role model to millions and millions and millions of Americans.”

Meanwhile, on the trail in Florida on Sunday, Palin had a pointed message for Barack Obama: This thing isn’t over yet.

Speaking in Tampa, Fla., Palin sharply criticized Obama for acting as if he’s already won the election.

Palin mentioned reports that the Democratic presidential nominee, who is leading in the polls, has already written his inaugural speech. That drew boos from the crowd of more than 5,000 gathered for a rally at the Tampa convention center.

Palin said Obama’s campaign “thinks this whole election thing is just a formality.”

With just nine days to go before the Nov. 4 election, Palin was making another push in the swing state of Florida, where most polls show Obama leading McCain.

Oh, Sarah? It was a mere formality. You were just a bug on the Obama train windshield. Thanks for playing. You are done here….