Thats the SHIT that got me MAD #2 Rubio is Spanish for “FLOP”….Ricky Rubio and the 2009 NBA Draft

June 23, 2009

With the first pick in the draft, the Los Angeles Clippers will select…

Normally, this is where there is some suspense.  Would a team trade up to get the pick?  But, in this draft, there will not really be any suspense until the second pick.  The Clippers are going to take Blake Griffin, the best player available and the clear cut number one pick.

The issue comes with the second pick.  No one wants to play for the Grizzlies.  Hasheem Thebeet has pulled out with a shoulder injury and I think that he is too limited to be the second pick.  Dajuan Blair, the 6’7″ PF from Pitt throughly manhandled him during the Big East series.  If he can do it, there are going to be others in the L that will put him in his place.

The other pick that is rumored to go here is the Spanish Sensation, Ricky Rubio.  He will be like Ricky Martin. You might have that silly song about living la vida loca, but what is the last song that you have heard from him?  Ricky Rubio has made some fancy passes.  But, so did Skip and hundreds of other playground legends.  They have made some jaw dropping dimes, but there is more to basketball than the fancy pass.

What about defense?  If you are a stone cold assassin like Kobe or AI, you can  be forgiven for some defensive lapses.  But, Rubio is not like this.  He is about 160 pounds dripping wet and would be bullied off the block, or scraped off during the pick and roll.  You have to be able to fight through some screens and go under/around others.  I see him always going under the screen, and that leads to deadeye shooters spotting up and making buckets.

Some people would say that he has time to grow into the job.  People point to the fact that he has been playing in the Spanish League since he was 15.  All I would say against that is the level of competition, I would expect a little more professionalism.  I don’t get paid for teaching only half of my classes, he shouldn’t get paid for doing half of what a basketball player is expected, no matter how good the half is. My online gambling site BetUS, has this to say about Rubio…

One of the big issues for those who have been following this draft is that Rubio appears dead set against going to Memphis. Spaniards Pau Gasol and Juan Carlos Navarro, who both departed from Memphis, were not happy in the city and with the organization. That’s probably a major reason why the team’s management brought Marc Gasol, Pau’s brother, overseas with them when they went to visit Rubio and watch him play.

Rubio did not want to come to Memphis when he visited the U.S., and that is a concern, enough that it has made the Grizzlies a little more anxious to get something out of their pick rather than to select Hasheem Thabeet with it.

Maybe the team that will give it to them is Boston, which could be looking for someone to develop behind Rajon Rondo and provide some depth off the bench. That’s an area where they could use someone, since Stephon Marbury isn’t likely to come back and a guy like Eddie House, for example, is shoot-first, pass-second. It is said that Rubio is reminiscent of Pete Maravich, and it’s interesting that Red Auerbach was always enamored with him, finally acquiring him at the tail end of Pistol Pete’s career.

The Draft is what it is.  The worst teams get to draft the best players.  I hate dudes who try to circumvent the system.  Yes, it is not a free market, where you get to pick where you want to go.  That comes in time.  This is not the Curt Flood scenario, where the teams held your rights in perpituity.  You get free agency after year four.  Your money is guarnateed.  That is a fair price to pay for the ability to get millions in free agency and the millions you get right out of college.

This is one of many reasons to be disappointed in Ricky Rubio.  I know that he is trying to recoup some loot from that huge buyout with DKV Joventut, but still…

dont worry Ricky, your NBA per diem will feed you....

don't worry Ricky, your NBA per diem will feed you....

Ricky Rubio has been the subject of a lot of trade speculation lately. The 6’5″ point guard out of Spain, a teenager who the Memphis Grizzlies (100/1 to win the ’09-’10 title) scouts are apparently enamored with may be the target if the Boston Celtics who are rumored in a deal for Memphis’ #2 pick in the NBA Draft this Thursday. Rubio has been trying to get out of his contract with DKV Joventut, but balked at the $6.6 million buyout that his contract calls for, which is pretty sizable considering his $97,000 salary and the fact that he would have to pay it (NBA teams are limited in how much they can contribute to a rookie’s buyout). The matter has now resulted in a lawsuit, since his Spanish team simply does not want to let him out of the deal.

Since the situation arose, DKV Joventut went ahead and assigned the rights to collect the buyout to an agency that amounts to Spain’s version of the IRS, in order to satisfy an obligation. Now that Rubio has to literally deal with the government, things are very much up in the air. The Spanish aren’t likely to do Americans any favors as long as we keep sending our NBA pros to the Olympics in continual beat-down attempts.

We don’t need them to do us any favors, since we are crushing them in the Olympics and the few good players that they send over are not crucial to the league.  Plus, Brandon Jennings crushes him out.

You are overhyped...both of you actually, but Brandon called out Ricky

You are overhyped...both of you actually, but Brandon called out Ricky

Sports Illustrated breaks down what Jennings said

SACRAMENTO — Highly touted draft prospect Brandon Jennings called Spanish sensation and potential No. 2 pick Ricky Rubio overhyped and not even the top point guard in the draft.

“Well, put it like this: If he was in a workout with me [and fellow point-guard prospects] Jonny Flynn, Jrue Holiday, Tywon Lawson, Stephen Curry, he wouldn’t probably be at the top,” Jennings said Friday.

Jennings made his comments after a workout for the Sacramento Kings that also included Syracuse’s Flynn and UCLA’s Holiday.

When asked if he thought Rubio, who has received great attention but has not worked out for NBA teams, is all hype, he said without hesitation, “Yes. Because he played in the Olympics, he’s been playing pro ball since he was like 14. So there it is right there. … I can’t wait to play him, though, in summer league. I’m just letting you know that now. I can’t wait.

“Yeah, I think I’m a better player than he is. I just shoot the ball better than he can. The only thing I’ve seen him do sometimes is when he has a home-run pass or something like that. I think the dude is just all hype. I can’t even front. I’m just going to be real with you guys.”

Now, you might think that this is all hype and bluster talking about something that they really don’t know about.  But Brandon backs up his statements with a little proof…

Jennings, a likely top 10 pick who bypassed the NCAA to play professionally in Rome, faced Rubio once last season in Spain. When asked how the matchup went, Jennings said, “Well, when I played him, he had zero points, two assists and two turnovers. So you tell me how that went.” In fact, according to the Euroleague’s official Web site, Rubio went scoreless with three assists and three turnovers in nine minutes in the early stages of his return from a wrist injury. Jennings finished with 12 points and two assists in 23 minutes. Rubio and DKV Joventut beat Jennings and Lottomatica Roma 97-93.

Before we fawn over Rubio, I would consider giving some of these guys a shot…

If you can be as good as this guy, then come talk to me…

5 Responses to “Thats the SHIT that got me MAD #2 Rubio is Spanish for “FLOP”….Ricky Rubio and the 2009 NBA Draft”

  1. Brandon only called out Ricky cause they’ve been unable to share that Brokeback Mountain moment. What a pity as it’d be hilarious to see.

    But at this juncture what the hell has Jennings done to prove himself ?

    • Steve said


      good of you to stop by. What Jennings has done is competed against NBA caliber competition in HS and in AAU. The scouts have seen his game and have broken it down. The players from Europe don’t have that same exposure. That is really the issue. Look at Rubio against the U.S. in the finals when he gets locked up.

      They are all risks. But, at this stage, Jennings is the safer option, if for no other reason than he is the cheaper option with clearly more athletic ability and upside

  2. Steve

    That may well be the case but I think that in this case we can all agree that Rubio is no Darko Milicic ? And as of now who can really say how any of these guys’ll fare ? It’s more about pot-luck than anything else.

    Let’s see how these guys’ll do a year from now ? That way we can gauge their progress. It wasn’t all that long ago people were hyping up Sebastian Telfair. And now look ? He’s slumbing it shall we say in Minnesota ?

    Ricky Don’t Lose That Number More To The Point More NBA Teams Are Said To Be Beguiled With Ricky Rubio ..

    In order to view just click on the text shown.
    As and when you’re ready I’ll look forward to reading your comments.

    Alan Parkins……..

  3. Steve said


    You are right, it is all a crapshoot. But, in any game that I am not assured of winning, I want the odds to be in my favor. If you are a poker player, I would rather have the pocket pair than Big Slick. While the flop pairs and my pair looks flaccid, there is always one more card to give me trips.

    The point is, Jennings has had a season to play internationally, trained like the Europeans do, but has had the travel and exposure that AAU ball gives you.

    As for waiting, that is all that we can do…but there is a better precedent for guards out of HS, than there is Euro guards.

    I will definitely read the article and comment…

    P.S. Bassy is actually playing decently. He has not really been in a situation that has been good for development. But, with that said, he was a starter in POR, and a part time starter in in MN

  4. I wouldn’t want Bass’ handling my bath water much less anything else at this juncture. All the hype in the world and five years in he’s yet to make his mark as a player. But when measured against the likes of Devin Harris , Chris Paul and Deron Williams. It’s like comparing a Hyundai to a damn Ferrari.

    As for Rubio he showed during the Olympic tournament the sort of caliber player that he is. And speaking as Anglo Carib Brit who now resides in the US. I think that all the hype that the Euros don’t play the game the right way and are soft has now become a misnoma ! If anything a lot of the skilled players are infact more technically sound than their North American counterparts in the nuances of the game. Here it’s all about the highlight reel event rather than the technical aspects of the game.

    I don’t know whether or not you’re into MMA ? As an ex military guy (6 1/2 yrs in the British Royal Marines…. taught martial arts to its membets and saw military action) I find the sport fascinating. Here’s my take on their upcoming promotional event UFC 100. In order to view just click on the text shown.

    Well This Is The House That Dana White Built Now Who’s Goin’ To Tell Him How To Run It .. ?

    As and when you’re ready I’ll look forward to reading your comments.

    Alan Parkins ……

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